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Wolds Cyclist's avatar

The more I learn about the history of Palestine, the more angry I become. Right now I am absolutely livid with the UK government and its support for the genocidal Zionists. 🤬🇵🇸

SōL's avatar

Exactly how I feel about America’s government , as an American.

Vin LoPresti's avatar

This was amazing in its comprehensiveness. Seeing degraded IDF-ers was a great memory; recalled how I loved those images the first time.

And in response to why it happened, to my idiot American clod-heads, I quote Sitting Bull:

"If we must die, we die defending our rights". AND "The white man knows how to make everything, but he does not know how to distribute it." AND, the spirit of oppressed resistance: "I wish it to be remembered that I was the last man of my tribe to surrender my rifle". That spirit to resist the deprivation of basic human rights is universal throughout history. Of course, this had to happen.

That someone may have profited from it wouldn't surprise me at all.

Palestine Will Be Free's avatar

There is a lot of incredible footage from October 7, showing the cowardice and lack of fighting abilities of the Israeli "soldiers." All seen through the headcams on the fighters. I had to sift through the footage from that day to pick the ones with the least amount of blood.

Glad you enjoyed this article. And thanks a bunch for going paid, Vin. It helps more than you can imagine.

yusuf's avatar

It was really striking. I remember following so closely the sweeping whirlwind victories of the resistance against the military bases of the Gaza Division that had massacred and oppressed Palestinians for so many years. And the proud tears in the eyes of the Palestinians besieged in Gaza; those were their kids, grandchildren of the first nakba, fighting for their home and liberation against the oppressor they were always told was undefeatable. And the first thing I thought was that IOF soldiers had never actually fought in their lives; the resistance fighters are the same ones who threw stones at tanks when they were children; while those IOF soldiers had only attacked unarmed children from within the safety of their tanks. The way such a brave narrative was then twisted, and the stories of the fighters corrupted, was heart-wrenching to see, despite the overwhelming evidence that al-Qassam was purely targeting military bases and in fact going straight for the central command at the Re'im base. This post is incredible, and incredibly important - thank you.

Vin LoPresti's avatar

You chose well. Still showed them in a degraded fashion, in stark contrast to their disgusting arrogance when they're bullying or degrading Palestinians.

tre peperoncini's avatar

Of seeing my fellow man’s degradation, be it that of a Palestinian or an IDF soldier, it all disgusts me.

I applaud all those who expose injustice, who educate me, for I, who was so willfully ignorant for so long. Preoccupied with my career, my material comforts, my social circle, I never once thought to join a protest against American–Israeli brutality. I who sit comfortably, safely, far from any front lines where my fellow man commits atrocities upon my fellow man.

I do not wish to overlook nor forget the cruelty of the IDF soldiers, but neither do I wish to forget that these young men have been conditioned to be cruel. The Milgram experiment showed how easily ordinary people can be influenced to commit horrific acts. Combine that with the human need to belong, and it becomes easier to understand the cruelty we see perpetrated by so many police forces, armies, and EVERY such agency we have empowered to use force, to subjugate and exterminate others, and perhaps, ultimately, ourselves?

Vin LoPresti's avatar

Your words immediately put me in mind of Chicago city police retreating from ICE agents, as the levels of violent cop energy compete for dominance. I despair every day of the police state the US has devolved into -- talk about freedom to degrade citizens using the premise of searching for illegals; I watch videos of Black Chicago neighborhoods, long-term residents, folks in shock, disbelieving how they've been degraded. So at a gut level, I understand your disgust. As far as our longevity, our continued membership in the company of the remainder of the Biosphere, I'm always skeptical.

tre peperoncini's avatar

I share your skepticism, but we all have an obligation to one another to ensure our mutual survival. Having done my part in bringing two lives into this world, I feel a special personal obligation to do what I can to ensure they have a decent world to live in.

I’m not brave enough to go to Palestine and fight to save the Palestinians, so I do what I can to fight for my own children’s futures from where I am. Be it something as simple as picking up trash others have discarded, or stopping to help someone in need, I believe all such acts have value and contribute to our collective well-being.

Perhaps if Americans, Europeans, Canadians, and all the other imperialists did the same, that is if they focused on their own neighbors, their own neighborhoods, towns, cities, states, and countries, they would not be so explicitly responsible for so many of the ongoing atrocities in this world.

Our Western empire has squandered its power; it ravages the resources of others and subjugates others not because it must, but because it can. We have allowed our rulers to become belligerent despots, and we have allowed ourselves to become willfully ignorant, deluded by the blissful illusion that we are not complicit.

How is it that we have so little self-awareness of our own complacency , and so little foresight to understand that the terror we bring to others will one day be brought upon us, is already being wrought upon us now. A society where citizens are dragged off airplanes, forced to give up their seats to others of “higher priority,” demonstrates clearly that we are not fit to lead, nor to be role models for other.

The ideology of being superior, our class structures, with our elites, our first class, our entitled, privileged based societies of chosen ones, divine ones, and exceptional , infallible ones, is destroying us all.

Vin LoPresti's avatar

While I sympathize with your dilemma, I have chosen not to perpetuate my DNA, so I'm not faced with that specific struggle. Instead, I'll just agree that a class structure which elevates individuals to positions of prominence, setting then up as demigods on the basis of parameters that would leave my father aghast is surely a setup for a spiral downward. My currently most disfavored noun in the English language: "influencer". When I examine the individuals to whom the noun is liberally applied, I am aghast!

alltheworldsastage's avatar

What exactly happened on October 7?

I think my 57min vid will help answer that question for everyone, take a look.... https://rumble.com/v6zz8sc-2yr-anniv-oct-7th-57min-vid-proof-the-oct-7th-bodycams-with-clouds-were-pre.html

tre peperoncini's avatar

You may have something there but the way you tell is difficult to digest,

alltheworldsastage's avatar

Its simple. When is anyone going to address the LIES that the media told about the Oct 7th bodycams?? Its been 2 years now and we all know about the 40 beheaded babies LIE and the mass rapes LIE were both blatant atrocity propaganda/lies. And the fact is that the Oct 7th bodycams ALSO were atrocity propaganda/LIES. I proved they were pre-recorded FRAUDS and lies broadcast out on Oct 7th by Israeli intelligence groups in my 57min vid take a look >>> https://rumble.com/v6zz8sc-2yr-anniv-oct-7th-57min-vid-proof-the-oct-7th-bodycams-with-clouds-were-pre.html

btw This also means that ALL the Oct 7th clips/vids that show many clouds in the sky are ALSO all FRAUDS & LIES... ALL of them!!!

tre peperoncini's avatar

What exactly do you mean by address , and this "anyone" is meaningless, be more specific.

The 2023 October 7th lies have been debunked by many independent journalist, even Haaretz has done some debunking , but those who want to believe the lies, are going to ignore because doing otherwise will destroy their bubble world view.

The powers that be, are not going to confess, corporate media is not going to confess , and its not new, I don`t recall anyone ever being held accountable for the WDM lie. Are you old enough to remember when Iraq invaded Kuwait and the lie of incubator babies ?

We all know that Netanyahu was ecstatic with the Oct 7th Hamas attack, but he and his regime are not only ones who licked their chops at the excuse to commit genocide, I suspect that a large number of the general public in Israeli, Europe, America and other states where also in a way so very eager to jump on the bandwagon wanting revenge. It made me ill to watch news broadcasts of NYC youths chant death to all Palestinians.

alltheworldsastage's avatar

You said...... this "anyone" is meaningless, be more specific.....The 2023 October 7th lies have been debunked by many

Tre did you miss the last word in my sentence?

I said... When is anyone going to address the LIES that the media told about the Oct 7th bodycams??

Bodycams... Bodycams

None of the independent journalist & Haaretz that you speak of have ever mentioned the Oct 7th bodycams issue and the fact that many of the bodycam clips were pre-recorded. And being pre-recorded that means they aren't Oct 7th and they are FRAUDS

Let me paste one of the paragraphs for you from the description on my vid

Most of the bodycam footage clips and Nova festival clips that you will see in this vid are between 6:30am to 9:30am, a very short 3 hour window of time. Watching this vid you will see that the bodycam vids with many clouds in the sky are FRAUDS and not filmed on Oct 7th. Which means they are pre-recorded and were probably made by video production crews inside Israeli intelligence groups, because hamas fighters weren't inside israel's borders BEFORE Oct 7th.

Tre Get It???

btw This also means that ALL the Oct 7th clips/vids that show many clouds in the sky are ALSO all FRAUDS & LIES... ALL of them!!!

Here is a simple example, look at the trailer in the movie "we will dance again" in this link and pay attention to the sky and pay attention to the clouds in the sky as you watch the short trailer>>>>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqzF3802X24

See how some clips are blue skies and then some clips show many clouds?? Notice that??

Now in the "we will dance again" trailer look at timemark 1:50 and timemark 44sec-47sec see the blue skies with few clouds? Thats accurate for the Oct 7th sky.

Now look at all the clips with many clouds, meaning not the 7th, they are 3sec 6sec 48sec 49sec 50sec 55sec 1:24 1:32 1:42-1:44 1:46. All those are pre-recorded and NOT the 7th.

The first of many important questions to start with are - Was Oct 7th mostly blue skies with hardly any clouds? or a sky with many clouds? Remember only one can be correct.. Either the 7th and most importantly the morning of the 7th was mostly blue skies with hardly any clouds (less than 8%), or was it a sky with many clouds. Both cant be correct at the same time.

The height of the sun above the horizon is the best indicator to determine the time of the footage on each of these bodycam clips. So ALWAYS pay attention to the sun and its location in the sky above the horizon in these clips cause that will tell what time it is. If two different bodycam clips show the sun in approx the same position in the sky and one has blue skies and the other has many clouds then "houston we have a problem", a BIG problem.

The easiest bodycams to prove that they are frauds are the sunrise bodycam clips. Because ALL footage of a sunrise should look nearly identical, because the sunrise occurs in a very short time window. Approx 15 minutes for the sun to rise from below the horizon to level with and start rising above the horizon. Impossible for two photos of a sunrise on the same day and location to look completely different. Impossible!! PERIOD!!

Hamish Easton Mackay Dawson's avatar

I agree. Comprehensive, and, of course, damning.

Kojo's avatar

The truth is necessary to set everyone free.

Palestine Will Be Free's avatar

October 7 is the most pivotal truth of our time. We cannot talk enough about the facts of that day.

Lily Witham's avatar

Excellent article, thank you! The minute I read about the beheaded babies, etc. on 10/07/2023 I knew it was bullshit. I grew up with Palestinian neighbors back in the 60's and 70's; they also attended the same Catholic Church as my family and sent their children to the same Catholic Schools my siblings attended. We knew them very well for decades. They are wonderful people: kind, compassionate, generous no matter how little they might have. Watching those horrible Zionist women block aid trucks all I could think was "if a Jewish child somehow ended up in care of the Palestinian family, that family would re-portion what little they had so that the Jewish child could have something too".

gypsy33's avatar

Hi Lily.

I grew up with the good fortune of having a Palestinian father. My neighborhood friends had fathers who largely ignored their own children and showed them little affection.

Whereas my siblings and I were my father’s LIFE.

Thanks for sharing the story of your neighbors.

Lily Witham's avatar

Palestinians really love their children! The father of the family I spoke of managed to get out of Palestine during Nakba, came to the states and married a US citizen. They had 8 children. In our neighborhood and church everyone loved that family! Thanks for sharing your story, gypsy33!

gypsy33's avatar

Hi Lily

My own father married an American as well, quite a few years his junior (he was 50 when I was born.) But she learned how to cook Arabic food very well and became a sort of honorary Palestinian.

My father had high expectations of us kids but was always loving and encouraging, never harsh or demanding.

Sol Sön's avatar

Thank you for putting this massive piece of history together, I only wish you would not link you tube which constantly removes content and which with its mother company go og le I boycott.

Future generations will be studying the 23 25 Palestinian Holocaust reading, listening and watching how history was made.

In solidarity for justice, dignity and peace for Palestine and for the world.

tre peperoncini's avatar

"For us to be slaughtered without making a noise"

Thank-you so much for transcribing Sinwar`s replies, Rage , Rage , we must not let them go silently , for their deaths diminish us all.

John's avatar

I wanted to write a comment but just couldn't find the words other than to say Thank-you for writing this column.

Maya Boucharef's avatar

Thank you for providing us with all the details of October 7th. We understand why foreign journalists

and investors have been banned from entering Israel.

🙏.

Tricia Cassel-Gerard's avatar

A great amalgamation of many facts we have gradually seen come to light with more illuminating sections which shows a greater picture. Thank you.

Michael's avatar

The trick of staging an "attack", blaming it on opponents/enemies and then bank on the consequences is as old as the world. It would take an encyclopaedia to list them all.

In 1939 the Gleiwitz radio station was "attacked" by German SS officers wearing Polish uniforms. Along with other similar "attacks" this was propagandized as an alleged Polish assault on Germany and paraded as a provocation to justify the invasion of Poland which promptly took place the following day. In this instance - October 7 2023 - Mr Netanyahu must have followed the instructions laid down by Mr Adolf on "How to carry out a final solution and live happily ever after." Stage a bloody "attack" blame it on Palestinians unleash a massacre as a legitimate punishment. We all know how tragically Mr Adolf trick backfired.

In 1978 the car of Aldo Moro, former prime minister and then president of the relative majority Christian Democracy party was assaulted by a group of far-left members known as the Red Brigades. The inconsistences of this assault were so many (too many to be detailed here) and so striking that questions arose first as to why a left-wing faction would prevent the communist party from entering a government coalition. This kidnapping and subsequent killing of the abductee caused a deep trauma in Italian society which shifted considerably to center-right. Not to the left. Forget the communists in government. Despite a number of trials the truth was never established, but a clue was given by the abductee's wife who testified that Henry Kissinger had repeatedly threatened Moro with grave retaliation should he refuse to change his policies about involving the communist party in the government.

stan squires's avatar

I am from Vancouver,Canada and i want to say this is a Good Article on October 7th. It shows that Supporters of Palestine around the world out number Israeli Genocide People in the world by a large margin. That is why here in Canada and in the USA and Europe many People who support Palestine are arrested and some deported. Many People in these countries still support Palestine despite the Repression against them.

It is very hard to get News about what is happening in Gaza in western countries that i just mentioned but the People who make an effort to get the Truth about Gaza gets the real News about Gaza. Here in Vancouver i constantly gets cut of from the Internet when i write anything about Palestine. but i keeps going and i don't let the Canadian Gov't or Israel Supporters here stop me from supporting Palestine. This battle here in the western world to keep in touch with Palestine will continue until Palestine is Free from Genocidal Israeli Occupation of Palestine. Completely free with No Trace Of Genocidal Israel anywhere in Palestine ! Yahya Sinwar when he spoke to the Vice Correspondent made it clear what needs to happen so that Palestine can be Free. He is a Great Hero of Palestine that will be remembered long after Genocidal Israel is gone and forgotten ! The western Gov'ts supported Apartheid in South Africa and it was still overthrown. Genocidal Israel will be driven out of Palestine despite support from western Gov'ts ! Long Live October 7th.2023.

Serene's avatar

👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

AMAZING WORK!!

This needs to be MANDETORY reading for EVERYONE who is interested in Palestine. ESPECIALLY those with hasbara about Oct 7th in their minds.

Resistance gives life. Long live the Resistance!!

Diane Engelhardt's avatar

This report should be read by EVERYONE, especially our pathetic Western leaders and politicians who don’t have a bloody clue!.

gypsy33's avatar

Hi Diane,

Oh they have a clue all right. The bought-and-paid-for Whores for Israhell just choose to ignore facts.

Diane Engelhardt's avatar

I should have said a bloody clue about the real history.

alltheworldsastage's avatar

What exactly happened on October 7?

I think my 57min vid will help answer that question for everyone, take a look.... https://rumble.com/v6zz8sc-2yr-anniv-oct-7th-57min-vid-proof-the-oct-7th-bodycams-with-clouds-were-pre.html

tony74's avatar

Well spotted!!

Can't trust Istaeli government and newspapers!

Utterly disgusting 😈 😡